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What Happened to the Firkin Pubs

(Please Note: This article was originally written in 2000 when I created my first pub review and travel guide. I’ve added some annotations and additions, and these are indicated.)


Firkin Dogbolter Pump ClipThe Firkin pub chain was started in London in 1979 by David Bruce[1]. He stepped in and bought a few run-down pubs off the major brewers where they were unable to make them pay. As well as redocorating the pubs in a basic but friendly style, he introduced the long forgotten concept of pubs brewing their own beer.

The breweries were tiny and were located behind or underneath the pubs – often with viewing windows or hatches so that the ‘machinery’ became part of the environment.

I first became aware of the chain in 1980 when friends took me to one of the original pubs, the Goose and Firkin in Borough, London SE1. The pub was packed and the atmosphere very lively, with a pianist leading everyone through an old style pub sing-song. I also used to frequent the original Frog and Firkin – a tiny pub just by the Hammersmith & City line near Westbourne Park station. Another well known pub was the Phoenix and Firkin which occupied the old ticket office at Denmark Hill station in South London. The name refers to the fact that the ticket office was previously destroyed by fire, but was renovated to create the pub.


With the success of the concept, the chain grew rapidly until 1988 when David Bruce sold the chain to European Leisure. The pubs changed hands a couple more times in a short period until in 1991 the chain was taken over by Allied Lyons (later Allied Domecq).

Flyman & Firkin, Shaftesbury AvenueAfter this the chain expanded again, not just in London but all over the country – typically in university towns. There were a few wobbly periods but generally the pubs were excellent, had a great atmosphere and played good music too.

The 1995 CAMRA Good Beer Guide records that the chain had 44 pubs of which 19 actually brewed. (The non-brewery pubs were supplied by one of the other Firkin pubs). Each pub tended to have it’s own named bitter, along with the Dogbolter and other seasonal beers.The Dogbolter[2] was always my favourite drink as it tasted like nothing else – a rich, dark, strong brew, although it didn’t do to drink it all night long.

When going for a night out in London, trips to Firkin pubs were always on the schedule. My favourites were The Flyman and Firkin, Fanfare and Firkin in the West End of London, along with The Fringe and Firkin in Shepherds Bush. I can’t remember the name but the Firkin pub in Winchester was really good too.

The Bass Takeover

Apparently in the spring of 1999, Whitbread and Punch Taverns both made hostile bids to take over the entire Allied Domecq pub roster. After a bidding war, Whitbread pulled out of the running leaving Punch Taverns to take over with financing from Bass. It then appears that Punch Taverns sold the Firkin chain on to Bass.

Early in October 1999, signs were appearing in Firkin pubs in London announcing that Firkin beers were to be discontinued, to be replaced with two ‘new’ and ‘exciting’ brews – namely Tetleys and Burtons.

So on October 8th 1999 all brewing of Firkin beers stopped completely and all the brewing staff were made redundant. Some of the Central London Firkin pubs had stock left for a few days, but because of the high turnover, it didn’t last to the following weekend.

It is unclear why Punch Taverns/Bass bought the chain and then decided to cease production of the distinctive Firkin beers, but it was certainly not done in the interest of consumer choice[3]. Tetleys, and Burtons especially may have been quality beers, but they are limp and lifeless when compared to Firkin beer.

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2010 Notes

  1. David Bruce is now a director of the Capital Pub Company which operates about 25 pubs in London. These pubs are appranetly not themed in the same way the Firkin pubs were, and none of them brew their own beer.
  2. Dogbolter actually does live on! The Ramsgate Brewery, based in Broadstairs brews Gadds’ Faithful Dogbolter Porter which I believe uses the same recipe as the original Firkin versions. And I have read comments that it tastes very like the original. You can read more about it in a blog post elsewhere on this site from 2009 entitled Firkin Dogbolter.
  3. In 2000 I naively believed that pub chains would care what their customer thought since it was the customers that chose to go there and buy the beer. Looking back it was obvious that Punch wanted to minimise costs and maximise profits so weren’t really interested in the craft brewing and other unique aspects of the Firkin chain. I guess they were also interested in acquiring a chain of pubs that were often in prime locations within towns.

58 Responses to “What Happened to the Firkin Pubs”

  1. karl says:

    I used to go to the goose in early 80’s. Believe the brewer “Nigel” was the same I knew as “Huggie”- great guy and great brewer. Think that Alastair and Tint were the “Guv” and his wife. All great people and hope they are well. Wish David Bruce had brought his magic to the US.


  2. Jim Thompson says:

    While stationed in Germany in the early 80’s, the Stars and Stripes ran an article on CAMRA, David Bruce and the Goose and Firkin. In June of 1981 we visited England and of course made a beeline for the pub in Southwark and was introduced to ‘Dogbolter’. This began a love of English Ales and Porters and with some additional information I went to the adult candy store “Boots Dispensing Chemists” and found kits to make both ‘Dogbolter’ and English Bitter. Merrily I took 10 kits back to Germany and began brewing in my kitchen. Long story short, I actively brewed from August of 1981 to June of 2004. We history has a habit of repeating itself and once again we hope to visit England in June of 2015 and my mouth is already watering for a pint at a local. Hope we will be able to find some pubs that still brew on premises.


    Jim Thompson Usque ad mortem bibendum!

  3. John Robertson says:

    I had the honour of being “the Head Brewer” for a period of time when the original chain was owned by Stakis Leisure. My office was above the Ferret in Chelsea and I was the guy who sent out the Tee shirts to those who completed the Firkin trail from Manchester via Derby to the London pubs. There were some great people working in the group at the time. Good times. Allied ruined them.

  4. Mike Puddephatt says:

    I brewed at the Flamingo in Derby, The Flea in Manchester and later at the Phantom in Loughborough. Would love to hear from some of the old crowd.
    Very happy times.

  5. John Robertson says:

    I remember you working with “Mad” Maurice at Derby then moving up to The Flea. Good old days, mate. Hope you’re well.

  6. Pete Limmer says:

    My son and his mate Stu managed the Fresher & Firkin in Cambridge, whilst Stu had a flat right over the river c/w balcony etc my son had a closet just below the roof but they both enjoyed the life, we inherited a big table, numerous bar stools a couple of wine racks some cushions and a display of 66 Firkin Barrel Bushes which also has a Bloater/University Scarf and some dust. The table & stools live on our decking and occasionally go to the next village who have recently lost their pub and have a “Pop-Up” pub in the village hall, our table makes them feel as if they are in a real pub – sad really but there it is!!!

  7. John Dagnello says:

    Thank you for compiling this history.
    My interaction with the Firkin pubs was in 1983 as a 20 year old Yank spending a year studying at Queen Elizabeth College in Kensington High. After several months of sampling the offerings at many a pubs, I fondly remember accidentally wandering into the Frog and falling in love with the atmosphere and, of course, Dogbolter.

    This kind of craft beer foreshadowed the huge demand we see in the States now.

  8. Garry Anderson says:

    I fondly remember sessions held at the original Goose over 3 years from 1980-82. It was the pub of choice for us expatriates in UK on working holidays at that time.
    Currently I’m making a long overdue return to London (after 32 years) and naturally sought a Firkin pub to go to for a celebratory Dogbolter, not only for myself, but for many friends who reminded me to have one for them also.
    Sad to hear the breweries couldn’t give a toss for a popular theme and good beer.
    Thanks for the informative website.

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